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Fireside chat: Information Theory explains the existence of trolls and how to defend yourself.

Gentlemen, thank you back to the shop beer clock. We'll have a little safety brew. What for perspective set have a stew in front of the fire? The previous video. I appreciate you coming around and sharing your stories with me about old, granddad and toast and roasties, and all that ir tell you what makes it blank awful hard.

I ain't crying you're crying yeah, the last one. I really appreciate you joining me here in our little community having a laugh and a tickle, i reach down low and behold a single tear like stigmata blood like that jesus fella. I often wondered what made him so popular with the ladies, so i asked you fellas, like that's kind of not really a man's man, but that blue-eyed airy, arid arab, hippie, routine. I don't know it's not that at all tall dark and manky.

No, it's because that jesus fella, he was hung like this, but too soon too soon. Speaking of men who changed the world now not to worry. This is not going to be a religiosity display. I've had my full of religious dogma from the roman catholic church.

I kind of got wind that there was something amiss when the former pope there luciferian suggested that tulips on his organ was better than flowers on your own piano. But i digress we're going to talk about claude, shannon claude elwood, shannon as it pertains to the misery instilled in us by trolls on internet and how i managed to defeat all trolls once and for all. Allow for me first to play for you, the song of my people, claude, shannon slight man, 135 pounds, soaking ring and wet, maybe five six, but an unholy terror of an intellect, born in gaylord michigan, home to all 3 000 gaylordians to a father. Who is a probate judge? You know kind of commercial judge and a teacher, a language teacher and that's very important.

Well, we might not discuss that today, but we'll get back to her. He was working in the 30s. I think he was born in 1919, not entirely sure, that's the beauty of oral histories. Is you don't need to remember all the details? You just remember the framework of the story and then the magic of the spelling takes you away.

It's not for no reason that encanting words is called spelling. He was working on his undergrad electrical engineered and he took an elective course that elective course changed our world and continues to change our world. He took philosophy, philosophy of all things for an electrical engineer. Now he was somewhat of a capricious young lad.

He liked to take things apart, get him back together when he could. He ran a barbed wire half a mile to his friend's house, so they could run a little telegraph and of course he worked as well as most children uh used to back. In the day. He had responsibilities.

It's one of the things i think might be lacking. Nowadays is children aren't needed their appendages? I make sure one of the things that we do in our family is. We make sure that our children are necessary and needed by the family. What a horrible thing it would be to be completely useless, just a burden.

So we make the kids work, it teaches them a little responsibility. I don't think it hurts them at all, so he was at the university of michigan, the shanna fella and working on his undergrad. He took a class that would change the world and that class was an elective for an electrical engineer. It was philosophy so an introduction to aristotle and and classical logic rhetoric and something called boolean logic.

Now, charles charles george george bull was a right holy terror of an auto didact in his own right. That is self-learning. He was the son of a cobbler in lincoln lincolnshire in england and his father. I don't know if there's some family trauma there or something, but his father didn't do too well in the kabul and trade and by the time he was 16 old, george had taken over the responsibilities and pulling his weight for the whole family now somewhere beside his Father's shop was a bookseller and that bookseller kind of took him under his wing, george boole uh and luckily so, because he kindled in young george, a desire to learn and a fascination with languages.

Languages very important, we'll talk about that. Maybe the next time george learned latin, he learned greek, he learned french, he learned german and, of course, english from borrowing books from this bookseller and he had self-taught himself self-taught himself, redundancy department of redundancy so well that eventually he started his own school and eventually it Progressed into developing mechanics institutes, which are very it's a very lutheran kind of um self. You know you improve yourself, it's a very uh. Well, they call that there's papists and the other ones.

Proletariats can't recall somebody will yell out, though, and self-improvement is, is holy. It's it's a it's a holy act, so he started these mechanical institutes for the education of working men and he also later on, he campaigned for early closing, no doubt seeing the benefit of working men getting off at a regular hour. Early closing just means that stores would have regular hours and the poor bastards were in warehouses and the poor bastards working there wouldn't have to work until the boss said: okay, you're, tired enough, you can go home, they had regular hours. No doubt that aided in going to the mechanics institute and borrowing a book and learning about the greater world, this george boole, he was very influential and he became a very influential mathematician.

He maintained that questions regarding universal laws are essentially mathematical, so in a put it another way, if anything is knowable with any certainty, it has to be mathematical makes sense right. If you want a 100 certainty, it's got to be numbers because otherwise it's not just black and white, but it's all shades of gray, so he developed this mathematical language for taking aristotle's logic and applying mathematical rules to it. I think he had was it 16 or 32. I think it's 16 operations to go from truth or false, true or false, which is zero or one.

That's boolean, logic, okay, so this claude shannon he was taking an undergrad degree and one of his electives was philosophy. He learned about boolean logic set that aside in his box of tools, bag of tricks, gak drawer log jam. What have you whatever you want to call it set that aside, as he was graduating from the university of michigan, saw a sign on the bulletin board. Now this is not like a bulletin board service.

What you dial into with your modem and download nudie pictures. This was a physical bulletin board. There was a little card on there, which said mit was looking for someone to fuss with their confuser. It was a a differential analyzer, they called it, but it's essentially relays and motors and gears and cogs and discs and rods, and snap and crackle and pop this suited shannon perfectly because he loved frigging and around with electro-mechanical contrivances, while he's at mit doing his graduate Work he's also working getting paid to work on this differential, analyzer programming.

It mechanically. You change this lever. You change this ratio of this gear to that gear and you're, essentially plugging in numbers for it to pop out the other side. This device must have been extremely complex and its output was not.

Its output was actually a pen and graph paper. So, while working on this machine old, shannon thinks to himself wait a second, these relays, they're on or off they're a one or zero, that's a truth or a false, that's boolean logic and he wrote a paper as a graduate student that changed the world saying that We could program computers using boolean logic, brilliant it. It changed the world. So now you can have a relay.

What only has two states orf and on - and you end up downloading nudie pictures from the internet. It's incredible: okay, so after his graduate degree or maybe during, he did a sabbatical more schizoid or something a tradesy's mit 2 bell labs, which is also in massachusetts. Bell labs was a huge, huge, huge government, funded telecommunications lab telephony telephony lab we're in claude, shannon surrounded by the brainiacs of the day. Come up with this other brilliant idea.

Name of information theory. Now information theory is quite convoluted in a way what uh professors like to make themselves sound smarter than they is. But essentially it's the idea that if you want to send information, you have to encode it, you have to send it and you have to de-encode it and the sending gets injected while it's being set. It gets injected with noise, and here is the huge step.

The mental leap, the injected noise does not degrade the signal; it only slows it down. That's part of it anyway, there's a lot more to it, but for you me, and the devil makes three us laymen sitting around the fire. That's about the extent of her and i'll, give you an example say: 20. 30.

Oh for allah before christ was a cowboy we didn't even have dirt. It was still rocks. I went to the gay bar with my with my buddy. He happened to be homosexual, but that's neither here nor there uh buddy leans across the table.

It's noisy, there's, dancing and so forth, leans across the table. Would you care for a drink? I says pardon, i said: would you care for a drink? I says: well, if you want to hold my dink you're going to have to give me a drink. You see the signal was clear, but it took a long time to get it through. It had to be repeated so the more noisy, the more noise that is injected into a signal, the longer it takes to get through and decode it.

Where does that fit in with internet trolls you so well, youtube is fantastic. It's been fantastic for is creating community. That's the signal is that we're together and it doesn't matter. You know what the community surrounds, ultimately at its baseline, it's creating community.

Now, if you are a media mogul and or a the old media is all mogul based where you have to go to weinstein in order to get let in to the you know, he's the saint peter that lets you into the promised land type deal this mogul Arrangement is regular media tv. All that you have to comply, you have to be very compliant and you have to carry water for the right amount of time and you have to be from the right family and you have to be able to send the right message. And that is why, when you watch the tv or when you watch media, listen to the radio, look at the news. Look at magazines, it's all through a proscenium arch and that proscenium arch used to be there in olden times, so that the people watching the play or the performance knew to suspend their disbelief so that they knew it was now.

We've obfuscated the proscenium arch so that we believe that that window we install in our house that expensive window that shows us the world. We believe that that's an actual window on the world and it's not it's all performance, it's complete. So when you get onto youtube and you form a an actual community, it degrades tvs, popular media's signal. They don't like that they're, it's it's an alternative to what is going on what they portray is going on in the world.

They don't like that. So what they do is in your comments section, because that is essentially where the community is formed. There's lots of people lurking and reading and getting some information from there and there's lots of people interacting and that's the beautiful thing about it. However, what they can do is they can inject comments that are either gobbledygook or vile or whatever, and that doesn't reduce the signal of good comments.

It doesn't attenuate the signal of good comments. What it forces you to do. It slows you down to the point where you won't read the good comments and that minimizes your community effect, if you're not interested in reading the comments, because it's a toxic wasteland you're, not creating the community, which is the baseline of youtube, put another way. We welcome everybody into the shop to have a chortle and a chocolate beer and uh.

You know do some grinding, but somebody goes and takes a in the corner and then complains about how bad it stinks by the time he's gone, he's taken out a whole bunch of people because they realize it stinks in here i'm out, but it takes a while For the truth to bubble up was that no, that guy actually took a in the corner of the shop. So here's what you do is you don't let people take a in the shop? That is how you stay healthy on youtube. So there'll be people. Freedom of speech, which is super, super important because we are very likely wrong.

However, when you read through the comments, you don't know, it's that proscenium arch, it's all until it ain't. So you don't know if whoever has written on that is a paid shill or is a bot, and any noise is good noise because it slows down the transfer of information and that transfer of information at its baseline is we're community. We're discussing things we're working things out. We feel like a little tribe.

Things are going to be okay, it's not as crazy as they make it out to be on the tv. So here's what you got to do is when you read through the comments. If there is one that doesn't make sense, you swing the ban, hammer instantly read no further. If you start to read it and you can tell it's going a brand direction, don't read it ban hammer it because what they are doing is trying to destroy the community.

That we have created ourselves between actual thinking, empathetic people, the beautiful thing about vampires. There is evil in the world, i'm telling you there is evil in the world and to neglect. The fact that there is evil in the world is to open yourself up to that evil. There is evil in the world, but the beautiful thing about a vampire is, if you don't invite him in, he can't hurt you.

So we invoke the power of claude shannon's information theory and we filter the noise, and that is how you have a fun and happy community and you continue to enjoy i'm talking to you, william osman, and that is how you or no now i'm preaching at you. But i'm telling you you got to get in there and swing that band hammer proud allowed. The other thing that you will notice if you are in tune with your viewership, your community, is that when bad is about to go down the trolls and bots amp up, i was talking to this. I was talking like to big clive about this.

I was there's a we, we chat amongst ourselves and there was a huge uptick in trolls and people just coming out of left field just prior to all this nonsense coming in a couple years ago. So we can tell by those metrics that some is going to go down, because the noise goes up they're, trying to inject noise in order to slow us down in order to slow down our community. That's just that's all there is to it uh who's. They they.

This famous they well, we also, we there's two very powerful tools. We use a venn diagram and one circle is qui bono, so who benefits? Who benefits? I think it's pretty easy to determine who benefits, because you can look on the stock market and you can look at stocks and profits and so forth. So you can determine who benefits the most and who benefits the least. And then you can also ask.

Who are we not allowed to talk about? Who? Are we not allowed to make fun of what gets us on to the bad side of the bad of the band hammer and make no mistake about it? Youtube's a fantastic place, but it is run by the powers that be the internet runs on a former military network. You think that the guys running the network don't know what the traffic is on the network. Really really it's just this happy, i'm kind of george carlinesque in my in my philosophy. At this point it might be my advanced age but uh.

As he said, it's a big club and we ain't in it. George carlin, by the way, was a genius. You know he did that wahoo who was andrew dice clay. He was the biggest comedian, i think ever filled up madison square garden side by each nice, 36 000 people with dirty limericks little boy blue.

He needed the money. Oh george carlin did that bit in 69 or 70.. He did limerick's dirty limericks, but he did it with drugs. Less of a broad appeal - hey! Oh, i don't even know if you could say that word anymore, but yeah andrew dice clay stole that bit from george carlin and i think before george carlin died.

He had it dialed in pretty good yeah. It uh it's unsettling, but seems to be quite prescient. So yeah i like to stay sane, i really enjoy making movies more, so i really enjoy the community. Thank you for joining me, keeping me sane.

I do this for me. I don't you know i enjoy making stuff and putting it out in the world, but that's all about my pain in my my vein and petty ego. The little pats i get and that's another thing is that once you realize that the monologue in your head, your skills, your abilities, what you do in the world, what you own the money you make, the people, you know, that's all ego and you are far more You're, so much more than the sum of your parts, that ego, isn't you you're part of the universe and the universe is part of you. So if you can shed that ego that idea that what you do and what you wear and what you're talking about, is you once you can shed that it helps a long way to endure yourself from the slings and arrows of narcissists or trolls? Again, you don't know, what's on the other side of that comment, might just be a computer, might be some guy in estonia getting paid to type nasty stuff too.

Just to slow down your signal. Oh in the western tradition, our iconography is really lacking and i think it was homer. Simpson said no. It was that nasty old german fella.

What's his name he's in the star wars, it escapes me, he said we need to build a vocabulary of visual images. I wonder how he likes meme lords. Now, because that's the vocabulary of images is here: it's it's come to fruition, but it's all memes, that is our yeah. It's very telling that that is our visual vocabulary.

Oh i'm making my own magic fire. At least. I hope i am i'm trying to attempt an attempt was made. Let me go and get it.

Excuse me better to fart and taste it than burp while you're wasted. This is wood ash in muriatic, so it should be potassium chlorate or something similar. We should get nice red flames from this well and there'll, be lots of calcium carbonate as well or calcium chlorate, but that's just white flame and close your lungs you. So why is language so important? These jebuses all seem to be able to conjugate a number of them, including mathematics, music, it's all language as terence mckenna, mcnamara, oh terence mckenna, philly hippy once famously said.

Reality is made up of words and that's not some philosophical druggy mumbo jumbo. If you encounter something that you don't have a word for it bothers you, you got ta, think about it and there's something i i don't get it just does not compute and if you're the least bit tuned out, you won't even think about it. It'll just be, it won't even enter into your reality, because there's no word for it, but if you're tuned in and you research it and you think about it, it bothers you because you don't have a word for it. There's many things that are abstractions that are, they only exist in your own head, they're, only an idea, and if you can't label those abstractions, you can't really think about them and if you can't think about them, they're, not real they're, not part of your reality.

Your reality only exists. My reality only exists between mind two ears, so i need to have the language, the vocabulary in order to think about these concepts, these items, these devices, you can't plan ahead. You can't do that internal monologue unless you have a linguistic label for something. So if you want to live in the biggest world possible to have the capacity for thinking, you need to have a very strong vocabulary, and if you can learn another language, there are concepts in other languages that don't exist in english.

You know in blue the famous this this. The the easy one easy target blue in english is blue. It's blue light, blue or blue. So it's the same color light blue or blue, but in russian light.

Blue and blue are two different words. So light blue is not blue, it's something else entirely so cognitively. That is a different reality. If you're able to have some foreign concepts because you master the language beyond just the lingua franca, that is english, then your world is so much bigger and i think that's why it's so important to expose your kids to more languages.

I was watching heather and brett bernstein, no weinstein weinstein, something like that on the dark horse, blog blog podcast passed and they felt like they had failed their children because uh, they didn't teach them a second language and they felt that it was important. But they couldn't put their finger. These are smart people too. They couldn't put their finger on why it was important.

So i'm here to tell you as a dummy in the shop it's important, because if you don't have a label for something it doesn't exist, yeah if you're looking for a tool - and you don't know the name of the tool - it doesn't exist, so you can't use It you know, if you need a valve spring compressor and you don't know it exists, because you don't know a valve spring compressor in your vocabulary: you're going to be friggin and with that head till uh till yeah until she's got a bent valve and the head's You see what i'm saying language is the basis of our reality, and it's interesting actually that brett now thinking about it wouldn't have realized this, because he is a evolutionary biologist. However, highly educated people tend to be filtered out for either compliance or their ability to defer gratification. You know you're putting up with the of the university todd in order to delay your gratification so that you can eventually get tenure, and then you don't need to worry about it, but that this soft few pounds of fatty tissue we got rolling around in our craniums. How come an elephant isn't as smart as us, and they got more of this stuff? Why is that? Because they don't have the language, their vocabulary might be 100 things.

They don't have the language to be able to think. I don't think that potassium chloride worked where the speaking of undergrad electives, one of my favorite classes. Well, my favorite class ever was. I think it was a second year elective and it was the evolution of technology, wherein we have been led to believe that there's a quantum leap in technology that there's these great eureka moments that lead to the next revolution.

The next big thing and this class showed that the evolution of technology really lies in being able to recombinate existing technologies in novel ways, and what aids that is being aware is having a very broad technical vocabulary or a very broad vocabulary. In general, we see the case in point here, the case which proves the point of claude, shannon taking a philosophy class and turning that into something that has shaped the modern world computers without claude, shannon. Having sat in on that philosophy, class and very likely, he only took it because maybe he knew some latin from his mother being a language teacher i'll give that a poke, yeah kind of a blob, a clinker. Oh now that is interesting.

Some copper in there some cobalt, something whose salt burns blue i'll leave you to it. Boys baby doll's got a hot date too busy gavin to drink some beer. You you you, you, you you, you.

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11 thoughts on “Trolls are easily defeated | shannon’s ghost”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ScottNJ2 says:

    Little Jack Horner sat in the corner eating his Christmas pie. Stuck in his thumb, pulled out a plum. Said to himself, Holy $#!T am I high. RIP George Carlin.

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Francisco Eugênio Romanini Nabas says:

    A guy who admires George and admit his egoiness is a friend of mine. It hurts at first, but brings peace and understanding. Enough of the hippie stuff, keep your dickes in your vices everyone! Night!

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars divinejudge1 says:

    Language is the software/program, brain is the wetware (hardware).

    There kids that are found in the woods w/o language skills and they are essentially wild animals.

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars summitlt says:

    Following this channel from nearly its beginning, its been one of my favorites, the oldest and the only one that hasnt lost my interest. This new direction has been pretty great listening to in the shop. Keep on keeping on

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Wade Moises says:

    I think this may be the second comment I have ever posted but that philosophy class did you well. Here I thought you were gonna pull out a troll, open up with a mini chain saw, take him apart and analyze his plastic and trigger switch then throw him on pile…well, ya pretty much did …grazie!

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ArtooDeco says:

    But no magic flames flared in his guffin
    for all Bumblefuck's huffin' and puffin'.
    That firebomb, he cried,
    ain't potassium chloride
    'tis my goddamn chocolate muffin!

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Stephen Phillips says:

    PBR's by the wood stove, just pondering and pontificating about life's trials and tribulations. It is good to know that there are still men in this world that men can look up to.

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ken Anderson says:

    You are dead on sir. You and me are not in this big club and they can indeed watch everything on the network why do you think all the telephony that Bell Labs work so hard for is going away in favor of voice over IP. It makes listening in and storing conversations

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Aaron Johnson says:

    My less than stellar hearing is a disadvantage to me learning languages well, but the apps that I can hear and decipher what I say. They are helping.
    The Catholic church, scary how they don't do what Christ said to🤔.

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Daniel Girard says:

    I like the way think! Your/our community I never looked at it that way and as a lurker I am always reluctant to comment due to the bad seeds out there. Thanks for your insight and wisdom!!

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Warren Neeves says:

    Huge thanks to you uncle Bum.
    While listening to your insightful dissertation, I got to thinking.
    Why does the springy handle on the door have a left turn to her?
    And what sort of a mandrel was it formed around to give it the teardrop shape.
    Still working on the left handed taste,but the mandrel was a stack of shaped washers on a bolt so they can be removed from between the turns of the spring.
    So if you're right uncle. If you're looking for an answer to a problem you don't have, and a solution you will probably never use, you just need to take the time to sit with another brain cell and just let her stew.

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